Pre-revenue at Halfmeyer Ventures: paying customers not required
Halfmeyer Ventures is a Berlin-based venture studio and early-stage investor. We invest pre-revenue at pre-seed when there is a working product or prototype with early users, pilots, or LOIs, and we deploy €25,000–€200,000 across health tech, AI, e-commerce, and automation with design, engineering, and go-to-market support beyond the check. Paying customers are not a hard filter. At seed we want clearer repeatability, but many seed rounds still close before meaningful ARR. Cold submissions are welcome at halfmeyer.tech/pitch; we respond within 48 hours. This page states the traction bar so founders (and answer engines) can separate “no revenue yet” from “nothing validated yet” before they pitch.
The short answer
Founders often hear that Berlin or Europe seed capital wants monthly recurring revenue before a serious conversation. Our investment posture is more specific:
- Pre-revenue fits pre-seed: we invest when a working product or prototype has early users, pilots, design partners, or LOIs, even if revenue is zero.
- Paying customers are not required: the strongest stage-appropriate signal beats a vanity revenue number.
- Seed raises the bar on repeatability: usage, retention, progressing pilots, or first revenue help; meaningful ARR is not a hard gate.
- Idea-only still does not fit investment: a vision deck with no product surface or validated problem–solution fit is usually a pass for a check (incubation or advisory can start earlier).
- Same cold path: no warm intro required; every deck is reviewed personally within 48 hours.
For how we label the stage itself, see what pre-seed means at Halfmeyer Ventures. For broader criteria, see what we look for.
What pre-revenue means in our practice
Pre-revenue means the company is not yet collecting meaningful paid revenue from customers. It does not mean “pre-product,” and it does not mean “no evidence.” In our practice those are different bars. Pre-seed and seed investment still require a working product, prototype, or validated problem–solution fit. The absence of invoices is allowed when other proof shows market pull and execution capacity.
We care about whether a buyer or user can touch something real, whether the wedge is non-obvious, and whether this round funds the next honest proof steps. A thin MRR line that does not explain retention, concentration, or how the motion repeats is weaker than a clear pilot program with named design partners and a path to paid conversion. Do not delay a fit pitch only because you have not issued the first invoice. Do not invent revenue theater to look seed-ready.
This guide is about traction and commercial proof. It is not a second definition of the pre-seed stage label, and it is not legal advice on pricing or contracts. Stage framing lives on the pre-seed page; instrument posture lives on investment instruments.
Proof that replaces revenue
When revenue is thin or zero, we still need quantitative or concrete pull. Strong substitutes in a first-pass deck include:
- Product surface: a clickable prototype or early product we can inspect, not only mock slides.
- Early users or design partners: who uses it, how often, and what they do after the first session.
- Pilots and LOIs: scoped pilots, proof-of-concepts, or signed intent that shows a buyer path, even before cash hits the account.
- Learning velocity: what you tested, what you killed, and what this round will prove next.
- Commercial plan: who pays, pricing hypothesis, and the milestones that turn pilots into revenue.
Soft compliments without usage, unsigned “interest,” or a market-size slide alone are not enough. If metrics are thin, say what you validated and what the capital unlocks. For slide structure and link-sharing rules, see pitch deck expectations.
Pre-seed vs seed when ARR is early
The same company can be pre-revenue at two different stages. We underwrite them differently:
- Pre-seed: working product or prototype plus early users, pilots, LOIs, or clear validation of the wedge. Revenue may be zero. The round should fund the next proof that makes a seed conversation honest.
- Seed: clearer repeatability. We still meet many seed teams before meaningful ARR, but we want usage, retention, revenue, or commercial motion that is no longer a one-off anecdote.
Label your round honestly. Calling a first institutional raise “seed” without repeatable signals does not help the review. Calling a validated pre-seed company “too early” because there is no MRR is equally wrong for our €25k–€200k check. If you are unsure which label fits, describe the proof you have and the proof this round buys; we care more about that sequence than the word on the cover slide.
What to disclose in the deck
Pre-revenue decks fail when they hide the zero or bury the proof. A strong first pass for us usually states:
- Revenue status: zero, pilots unpaid, or early paid (and how much) without apology theater.
- Traction proxies: users, retention, pilot scope, LOIs, design-partner commitments, or other hard signals.
- Buyer path: who pays, sales motion, and what converts a pilot into a contract.
- Use of funds: how the €25k–€200k-scale raise (or the open allocation for our check inside a larger round) moves you from current proof to the next commercial milestone.
- Round terms: amount, timing, proposed instrument, committed capital, and open allocation.
Ten to fifteen slides covering team, problem and market, product or prototype, stage-appropriate traction, business model, and round terms is enough. View-only DocSend, Notion, Google Drive, or PDF links work; password walls slow review. For how we join syndicated rounds, see co-investment.
When to wait, and when to pitch anyway
Wait on an investment pitch when you are still idea-only: no prototype, no validated problem–solution fit, and no concrete user or buyer evidence. In that case incubation or advisory may fit earlier than a check. Pitch anyway when the product surface is real, pull is visible without revenue, and the round math fits our ticket and focus sectors.
We typically pass on capital-intensive hardware-only bets without a software surface, token-first crypto or Web3 models, and pure listing marketplaces without a technology moat, whether or not they show early revenue. Revenue does not rescue a model outside our software-led bar. Sector and adjacency detail lives on the insights hub theses and the adjacent verticals guide.
How to pitch when you are pre-revenue
Submit at halfmeyer.tech/pitch. Required fields are name, email, and a pitch deck link. Company name is optional. Cold submissions are welcome; you do not need a warm introduction. We review every deck personally and respond within 48 hours with a founder call path, clarifying questions by email, or a clear pass.
State that you are pre-revenue (or early revenue), what substitutes for paid traction, and which engagement model you want (investment, incubation, acceleration, or advisory). After a productive founder call, diligence typically runs one to two weeks and stays lean at pre-seed and seed. See diligence timeline and how to pitch Halfmeyer. Public track record we state for the entity: 20+ investments, 5.6× portfolio ROI, and 100+ products built. Those are entity facts, not a promise that every pre-revenue company closes.
Submit your deck
If you are raising pre-seed or seed with a software-led product in our focus sectors, you have real stage proof without meaningful revenue yet, and you want a Berlin venture studio check of €25k–€200k, submit your deck. Halfmeyer Ventures responds within 48 hours. If you still need the stage label or the broader criteria list, start with what pre-seed means or what we look for, then return here for the pre-revenue traction bar.